Liverpool's 5-0 loss to Manchester City on Saturday can be written off as the effect of a contested red card that left Juergen Klopp's team down to 10 men for almost an hour, but that cannot totally mask some worryingly familiar failings.
Ederson required several minutes' treatment before being carried off on a stretcher but referee Jon Moss had no hesitation in dismissing the player. He was taken to the medical centre at the Etihad campus to check for fractures to his cheek, but appeared later by the City substitutes' bench.
As regards the general performance, Klopp said he was disappointed Liverpool didn't take their chances when it was 11 against 11, and lamented the amount of space his side gave up.
"This season he is in a good mood - maybe because he is a father now, I don't know - he's always optimistic, it's good".
Manchester City capitalised on Sadio Mane's controversial red card to thrash title rivals Liverpool 5-0, while Manchester United lost their 100 percent record after a 2-2 draw at Stoke on Saturday (Sunday in Manila).
"It's a new game and we have to start from zero again".
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"We're not going to win any trophies this season".
Mane scored his first for the season in Liverpool's opening-day 3-3 draw with Watford at Vicarage Road, before scoring the victor in their 1-0 victory over Crystal Palace.
"We spoke at half-time and said: don't let them run".
Despite dropping points for the first time in four matches, United remain top of the table, above neighbours City on goal difference.
"Yes, with one man down against City, it is really not the best place to be, but we do it a lot in training-we defend with only seven players against 14".
TEAMS: Manchester City: Ederson, Danilo, Stones, Otamendi, Fernandinho, Walker, De Bruyne, David Silva, Mendy, Aguero, Gabriel Jesus. City have a very offensive line-up but they have adapted to the speed we have in our team.
As part of a devastating front three alongside Roberto Firmino and Mohamed Salah, Mané will be hoping to terrorise countless opposition defenders in his second season at Liverpool. City can come late and then they pass between the lines. The Cameroon forward's opener was canceled out by Marcus Rashford in first-half stoppage time.
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